Tamra Judge Exposes Jenn’s Old DMs as a Fan, Accuses Her of Copying Her Life to Join RHOC and Hints at Cheating Receipts, Plus Talks Ryan, Wanting Vicki Fired, and Her One Lie on Camera-quang

“What’s she been through? Married 20-something years to a really nice guy? Very religious, nice. I haven’t talked to him since they split up … [but he’s a] really good dad,” Tamra noted.

As for the claims of Jennifer potentially cheating on William, Tamra wouldn’t say much, but she did state that she “[knows] a lot about her.”

“We have a lot of mutual friends. I would call it a rumor right now because I don’t have the text messages. I think it was one of those things where she was accusing me of cheating so I’m like, ‘Well, let’s be honest. This isn’t your first time.’ I think it comes up again,” she hinted.

Then, after stating that Jennifer “could do better” than Ryan, but encouraging her to “have at it” if he’s what she believes is best for her and her kids, Tamra explained why she once tried to have Vicki fired.

“I wanted Vicki fired for a while back in the day. She was making up these lies about [Eddie Judge] and having these parties and bringing [Gretchen Rossi] in and all this stuff. And I was just like, I can’t deal with this. I can’t deal with lies,” she said. “That’s the thing. You have something on me? Bring it up.”

Also on Nick’s podcast, Tamra admitted to telling a lie about Heather Dubrow, 56, to Shannon Beador, 61, in regard to Shannon’s split from her ex-husband, David Beador, 60, but she insisted she did so for the right reason.

“I lied one time to protect Heather,” she explained, proceeding to reveal that she had leaked the news of Shannon’s breakup to Heather shortly after she learned of their split.

“The next day, [production] had Shannon come to my house and film, but prior to that, I did a scene prior with Heather and we were at a restaurant in Newport, filming,” Tamra recalled.

While Tamra didn’t tell Heather about Shannon’s then-impending divorce on camera, the topic came up after she left, and ultimately, David found out.

“He went off on [Shannon]. ‘How does Heather know all about this?’ And I’m like, ‘Sh*t!’ I remember texting Heather. I go, ‘What the f*ck, Heather? David just called Shannon.’ And I stuck my phone in the couch, and Shannon goes, ‘Did you tell Heather?’ And I go, ‘No!’” Tamra confessed. “I should’ve said yes, but I just like, panicked.”

The Real Housewives of Orange County season 19 airs Thursdays at 9/8c on Bravo.