‘I was at my dad’s wake and she kept attacking me’ – Lisa Hochstein accuses Larsa Pippen of heartless texts about Marcus Jordan while she mourned her father’s death - suong

The Real Housewives of Miami's Lisa Hochstein is calling out her castmate Larsa Pippen for sending what she calls “hurtful” and “very upsetting” text messages during one of the “worst times” of her life. 

In an exclusive interview with PEOPLE, Hochstein claims that while she was mourning her father’s passing, Pippen, 50, was allegedly “hammering” her with texts about her boyfriend, Jody Glidden, continuing to be friends with Pippen's ex, Marcus Jordan.

“It was so bad,” Hochstein, 42, says. “Larsa was fighting with me and sending text messages back and forth. I was like, ‘What are you doing?’ I'm like, ‘Please stop.’ I had to ask her.”

Hochstein claims that Pippen, who was married to NBA player Scottie Pippen from 1997 to 2021, didn’t “say anything” about her father’s death during their heated exchange.

“I’m like, ‘Do you know what I'm doing here?’” Hochstein continues, noting that she “got so mad” at Pippen that she “sent her a picture of what was going on” at her dad’s wake. 

“I'm like, ‘Look, this is what's going on with my life right now, and leave me alone.’ And I don't think she even got it then,” Hochstein alleges. “She kept on hammering and hammering and arguing."

“Put that aside for a second. When someone's going through something, rally and be there for your friend," she adds.

Hochstein also suggests it was hypocritical of Pippen to complain that she didn’t support her during her breakup with Jordan while Hochstein was mourning her father’s death.

“It was just truly disappointing,” Hochstein says. “Larsa is saying that I wasn't a good friend and I wasn't there for her through her breakup. Well, guess what? You're not there for me through my dad dying. Compare the two of those scenarios.”

Hochstein's father, Roger, died on September 25, 2024, just months after they began reconnecting following years of estrangement. 

Glidden, 51, who has appeared on RHOM alongside Hochstein since their relationship began in early 2023, tells PEOPLE he was stunned by the timing and tone of the confrontation. 

"I found that unbelievable,” he says. “I know when I lost my mom, I just got this big outpouring of support from all of my friends. I can't imagine being attacked at the same time. I was really shocked.”

He adds, “There's real life, and then there's this show, and I thought people realize there's no need to play it up anymore for the cameras because something in real life is happening."

However, Pippen sees things differently. In her own interview with PEOPLE, she says: "I know that when Lisa was going through her hard time, she expected me to be there for her. She would call me all hours of the night. I would be on the phone with her until 2:00 A.M. We would be on cast trips, and I would be up with her all night while she cried. I rode the roller coaster with her of her going through her divorce, and I feel like for me, when I was going through this very public breakup, I don't feel like she was there for me at all. I feel like she was non-existent."

Besides her ongoing friend drama, Hochstein has been focused on a new business venture with Glidden.

A veteran tech entrepreneur and CEO, Glidden has partnered with Hochstein on her new business, SplitWell. “SpitWell is an AI powered platform that guides couples through separation, offers vetted legal resources and budgeting tools and helps reduce costs to couples,” Hochstein says. 

"It has a chat advocate to [help] navigate through your difficult conversations; an information advocate, where you can get insights on your legal documents and questions; a meeting advocate to record and analyze conversations to help you understand and navigate through your divorce like a note-taker and then recommended attorneys that we prescreen in your specific state for your specific needs," she adds.

The goal, Hochstein says, is to help reduce costs and conflicts for couples divorcing. “It’s something that's really my own, and I did it because I genuinely want to help people after the hell I went through with my divorce,” she explains.

Hochstein's divorce from her ex-husband, Lenny Hochstein, 59, was finalized in November 2024 after 13 years of marriage. The pair share two kids — son, Logan, 8, and daughter, Elle, 3.

“I think she does an amazing job,” Glidden says. “We have no lack of interest from investors. She's recruited amazing employees. It's been off to an amazingly fast start with tons of downloads and she's been kind of a force of nature with all of this.”

Glidden adds that he’s “been really proud of her.” “I was one of the investors as well, and I support her any way that I can,” he says.

The Real Housewives of Miami airs Wednesdays at 9 p.m. ET on Bravo, and can be streamed the following day on Peacock.